Thoughts on the X-Men/Fantastic Four Crossover Movie: Time Travel, Dark Phoenix, and Universe Building

So Bryan Singer has talked about the possibility of a Fantastic Four/X-men teamup movie. A lot of people online have been bitching about how they would have to use time travel to get the current casts together. I actually think this kind of works, because if we’re continuing to move forward with this new younger cast from X-Men: Apocalypse, it would be considerably less convoluted if they just time jumped everyone to the present rather than continuing to set them in the past until eventually they catch up with the time period of the original X-Men movies. And it’s not like that kind of thing is unheard of. In fact, recently in the comics, the original teenage X-Men have been brought forward in time and are now living in the present. You could totally do the same thing on screen, especially since time travel already exist in this universe. This way we can also see a return of some of the younger characters like Kitty Pryde and Iceman, who you can’t put in movies set in the 80s. Anyway, for the plot of the actual FF/X-Men crossover (assuming that the new FF does well enough for this to actually happen, and that it’s good enough that we actually want to see these two casts meet), I think they should do the Dark Phoenix saga. I mean, it’s arguably the most iconic X-Men storyline of all time, and they totally botched it the first time. But now they have a new young Jean Grey and a totally rebooted timeline, and if you think about it it’s totally perfect. In the comics the Phoenix Force is a cosmic entity, and the Fantastic Four do nothing if not deal with cosmic entities. But beyond that, the thing really lacking from X-Men: The Last Stand’s take on the Phoenix was that it never really felt all that big. She was like a pawn of Magneto, and they said she was a “class 5 mutant”, and I guess she disintegrated a few dudes, but the Phoenix should feel like an epic world-ending force of destruction. Having it threaten the whole world to the point where the X-Men and FF have to team up to deal with it is the perfect way to establish that. And if we are going to see the Phoenix again, they have to do something different with it, and adding the FF to the mix is the perfect way to do that, too. Now, I don’t necessarily want to see a large interconnected Fantastic Four/X-Men universe from Fox, but it’s clear that it’s going to happen either way, so we might as well talk about it. And considering the recent hot streak of X-Men movies, and not yet having seen the new Fantastic Four, I’m kind of cautiously optimistic about the whole thing. I mean with Marvel’s light, witty, no real stakes feel, and DC’s dark, depressing grit, the fox universe might be a good realistic middle ground of massive comicbook franchise, and I will say that the three Bryan Singer X-Men are more interesting films than most of the MCU. Assuming everything goes well, a crossover movie with X-Men and the Fantastic Four dealing with the Dark Phoenix could be like the first major event movie in this new universe. Hell, you could even throw Deadpool in there for comic relief. This is probably way father in the future than anyone at fox has even thought about, and comicbook movies will probably hit their breaking point and fall out of popularity before any of this comes to fruition, but if it is going to happen, I think that’s the way you do it. And I for one would see the shit out of that movie, especially if you put Singer in the director’s chair.

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